Beat Buddy, Loopers, Midi Sync

[Guitar_Stu]

Glad to see you got it sorted Ethereal. Trying to fix an issue like you had can really drive a person insane.

[Adamixoye]

An option on the Beat Buddy to not send MIDI notes is probably coming in the future.

[scudd]

@Ethereal Guitars

… If the BB is playing a beat that is different to what the IL is set on, it doesn’t work. Next logical upgrade/bug fix for Infinity maybe.

Or you could configure one of your IL presets for the time signature of the BB song you’re playing.

[Adamixoye]

@scudd

Or you could configure one of your IL presets for the time signature of the BB song you’re playing.

This really shouldn’t be necessary with the latest firmware on each—Infinity adapts to whatever BB is doing.

[MrHarryReems]

@flyingbird

Plus Bigsky reverb, timeline delay and pitchfactor Pog2 etc. Great sound.

My external looper controller for my Timeline should be here today… Going to try it out with the Beat Buddy midi sync this weekend! I can’t see any reason to continue the chain to the Bigsky, it’s just doing reverb things…

[scudd]

@Adamixoye

This really shouldn’t be necessary with the latest firmware on each—Infinity adapts to whatever BB is doing.

Is this true? Would be very exciting if it was. Does the BB send some kind of measure information? I was under the impression it only sent a clock signal.

[Adamixoye]

@scudd

Is this true? Would be very exciting if it was. Does the BB send some kind of measure information? I was under the impression it only sent a clock signal.

Yes, it absolute is, I’ve been doing it for months. I assume its your Infinity firmware that is out of date if it is not. Infinity is on 2.0.3 now, I think it’s been doing it since about 1.5.

[MrHarryReems]

So, BB with the Strymon TImeline looper is a no-go at the moment. It syncs the delay tempo just fine, but unless Strymon releases new firmware, it won’t work with the looper functions. I’m going to call their support tomorrow to see if it’s coming. If not, it looks like it’s a new looper for me. Big bummer.

[Ludi]

@Ethereal Guitars

Great news people. Dogged perseverence has prevailed! Thanks to 19 frets confirming that my method for changing the Ignore MIDI Notes parameter was correct I was left with the conclusion that either the SD card was faulty (seemed unlikely to me too) or the software on the SD card was corrupt. I found a forum post on page 47 of an Infinity discussion on “thegearpage” which described how to re-install the software on the SD card. So I formatted the SD card back to clean. Then followed the steps for re-installing the software. Launched the app, checked the box, closed the app and it STUCK!! Hooray! I then plugged everything back on to the pedal board and it is WORKING exactly as I had hoped. No silent measure, no glitches. It held a rhythm riff to a beat with perfection allowing me to solo 'til my hearts content.

CONCLUSIONS
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[]My software on the internal IL SD Card had somehow become corrupt. Nothing actually confirmed this other than failed functionality and trial and error.
[]The BeatBuddy and the Infinity when setup correctly are incredibly impressive tools.
[]Pigtronix really need to establish a useful Help/Tech page with all of these issues covered. The videos they have are cute but they don’t help you solve problems.
[]Alternative of course would be for an Infinity/Pigtronix forum where all of these issues could be fleshed out properly with a target audience. Over time, a database of useful information would amass making tech issues so much easier for all users.
[]It seems that the guys at Pigtronix are really good at posting “fixes” in various forums but the trick is trying to find these posts.
[]It would have been good if BeatBuddy had not decided to send MIDI Notes in the first instance as this issue would not have occurred. I guess sending MIDI Notes must be useful to some people.
[*]PC Users are used to executing a SAVE function when they change something. The IL App is a bit weird in that they failed to include an “OK” or “SAVE” button on the Global Settings page. That would at least ease the angst of thinking you are failing to find the save button which is causing the problem. You don’t need to save a changed setting. Who would have thought!
[/LIST]
Apologies to those I offended during my frustrations. I hope however that I have contributed to the hotch potch of forum dialogue that might help others who will come across the same problems. To everyone who tried to help me…thanks!

Hi,
I´ve got my Infinity Looper 3 days ago now, was exited to get started (to use it with my BeatBuddy), and I ran into exactly the same problem you´ve had. … NOT able to check the box and keep it checked… Realy frustrating!
Please, could you give me a link to the page where you found your solution?
Greetz

[Pengo]

Hi Evan, I’m new to Beatbuddy and am looking to do what you have described for midi clock syncing. However one of the things in wondering is how you can record a loop from your guitar and have beatbuddy connected as well. I’m I correct in thinking you can’t and have to have you loops pre-recorded?

[Adamixoye]

@Pengo

Hi Evan, I’m new to Beatbuddy and am looking to do what you have described for midi clock syncing. However one of the things in wondering is how you can record a loop from your guitar and have beatbuddy connected as well. I’m I correct in thinking you can’t and have to have you loops pre-recorded?

I’m not sure what you mean. The clock syncing is done over MIDI, which has nothing to do with the audio. For the audio, you place the looper prior to the Beat Buddy in your signal chain. Then the loop does not include the drums, but the drums are playing over that at the end of your chain, all in sync (if you have a MIDI connection).

[MARIE_ANDERSON]

For anyone that’s curious, I use the TC Helicon Voicelive3 with my Beatbuddy and have for a year now. I have had no problems with the midi sync between the two and the loops I record live during my gigs sync perfectly.

[clive]

@MrHarryReems

So, BB with the Strymon TImeline looper is a no-go at the moment. It syncs the delay tempo just fine, but unless Strymon releases new firmware, it won’t work with the looper functions. I’m going to call their support tomorrow to see if it’s coming. If not, it looks like it’s a new looper for me. Big bummer.

Just saw this post… Just to let u know I have been able to sync the timeline with the BB… Earlier few months ago I had no success (i.e. Before the bb ingnore midi notes update) … It messed up my TL… No syncing was possible… I tot it was the TL error… But after the BB update and resetting my TL it’s all good!!

[MrHarryReems]

@clive

Just saw this post… Just to let u know I have been able to sync the timeline with the BB… Earlier few months ago I had no success (i.e. Before the bb ingnore midi notes update) … It messed up my TL… No syncing was possible… I tot it was the TL error… But after the BB update and resetting my TL it’s all good!!

Are you able to get the looper to sync? I’m able to get the delay to sync, but not the looper portion. Last word from Strymon (some months ago) was that they looked into it, but didn’t have immediate plans to implement it due to the difficulty in doing so. If there’s a new Strymon firmware that adds the functionality, I’ll be stoked!

[clive]

no the looper does not sync, but it has anamazing play again switch ( retrigger) which helps you keep in time

[Raymond]

@Daef

Omg, are you serious about BeatBuddy & Boomerang III combo?! It is amazing, man!

You should definitely check my video in the signature below! I’ve just fixed on-screen help text to show what’s going on here.

P.s.: My friend once had Boss RC-300, and he throw it away for Rang and never looked back!

Wow, a Boomerang is definitely the next pedal going on my board. Thanks!

[South_Wind]

OK, here’s a question for those of you that are using a VoiceLive 3 or Infinity Looper. Have you recorded and saved a loop or loops that were synced with a drum beat and then came back later reloaded the loops and the drum beat and have them stay in sync? I’ve not tried this, but it’s something I’ve been wondering about as to whether it would work.

[UncleTape]

@South Wind

OK, here’s a question for those of you that are using a VoiceLive 3 or Infinity Looper. Have you recorded and saved a loop or loops that were synced with a drum beat and then came back later reloaded the loops and the drum beat and have them stay in sync? I’ve not tried this, but it’s something I’ve been wondering about as to whether it would work.

I do that all the time with my infinity looper
right now have have 6 or so song/loops stored in it. Some just using plain drum beats and some w/bass
One of the is the entire song with a one press version

[South_Wind]

@UncleTape

I do that all the time with my infinity looper
right now have have 6 or so song/loops stored in it. Some just using plain drum beats and some w/bass
One of the is the entire song with a one press version

Thanks for the input. I felt that it should be possible, but had not read of anyone actually doing it.

[paddydoc]

Has anyone had an experiences using the infinity looper synced with the beat buddy to record backing tracks with guitar or keyboard?? To the memory bank on the infinity looper?