The manual still states that Aeros will auto save loops on stop. However, this appears to have changed in a firmware update.
Last night I got my cable to connect my new beat buddy to aeros. Super inspiring and easy to work with.
However, I didn’t manually save my song and I never exited the loop studio screen. Took a break to eat some dinner and we had a power failure for 30 seconds. Came back and my 4 track, 2 part loop is gone. I lost a couple hours of improvised work that I was very happy with.
Was too frustrated, so left the studio for the night. did some research and it appears Auto Save was removed as a feature. Please bring back Auto Save after stop play - at least as a preference option. I’ve never had a looper that required a specific save feature after a recording. Even the lowly Ditto will remember it’s loop after losing power.
I get that it may cause issues with immediate restarting play after a stop in live settings. But that is why a preference is the right choice (and I’ll argue it should be the default).
Tech Culture is that “save buttons” should be only used for special situations (think google docs, ms office… and most enterprise apps, most mobile apps, etc… The entire tech universe is dominated by auto-save these days which sets expectations of behavior.
Apologies, this has never been an official feature of the Aeros, can you show me the link you’re referencing? It could be an old manual… or possibly a miscommunication.
You must always save there is no auto-save feature. Auto saving would not work very well as audio is playing the Aeros is not intended to do this, and saving songs can take some time and users may not want to be forced to wait in stopped mode without their consent for a save.
We very likely will not implement this.
We suggest you always save your Aeros song to ensure things like random power surges/failures/flip switching don’t lose allow you to save your tracks while you step away from the Aeros.
Never been a feature since I started, so this is veeery old, and I’d say more of a bug than a feature, or a very disliked feature rather.
Loops are automatically saved as songs in the form of wav files on your pedal’s onboard memory or SD card.
I can see why you’re confused here, this “saving” is really referring to the writing of the recorded Wavs, they do not save, we will update the FAQ to better reflect this.
Old is a relative term! I joined the team after 2.13.2.
As I said before, we will likely not do this. Our decision to change it was not meant to be expanded to a setting and we are not likely to be going down this path anytime soon.
Aeros should be streaming straight to long term storage anyway so that you aren’t suffering from the recording limits currently imposed by the record to ram strategy. In which case the concept of saving would be nonsense anyway. At best “saving” would be moving the temp-named project to a long term name, the sample files wouldn’t change.
What’s the big objection to this, perfectly sensible, request that makes you say it’s a bug?
I am saying it originally was dealt with as a bug, and that is why it was removed as a feature of the Aeros, it likely caused more trouble than it was worth with the Aeros’s way of handling saving as is.
Thanks for the feedback!
It is a temporary rejection based on the Aeros not being able to handle the request. If the logic changes and it becomes possible, that is subject to change.
Please note that this is still tagged under-consideration, and thus is not wholly rejected. And you can also note that it is in the Feature Request category (I put it there) and not the Bugs category, I do not think this is a bug, rather it causes bugs that we cannot account for fixing at this time.
I got my Aeros recently and now I came here after losing a few sessions forgetting to save. I also want to request this feature to be added since I assumed that the looper would be the in the same state next time I would power it on. I’m very used to working with my Tascam digital mixer that saves on every stop after a recording, and there’s a few seconds wait for that to finish, but it’s okay for me. I wouldn’t be mad to wait if I want to explicitly enable auto-save. I can see how it can be troublesome for somebody doing a live gig to wait on stop, but the setting can be off by default and the wait delay warned in the setting information.That way, for the ones of us that do more studio work rather than live gig, it would be very beneficial. It doesn’t have to stream/save as you’re looping/playing, it can just save on stop. Can you please raise this feature request again with the devs to see if after this much time, and after all the great work you’ve been doing with the 5.2 release, there’s any chance of implementing this? As a software developer I imagine it would be a matter of adding a check for the setting on the stop action and, if enabled, then call the save action as if it was triggered manually by the menu option. I’m sure it would be a life saver for many people as well if they chose to enable it.
Thanks
the ‘save on stop’ would actually be a huge pain for my workflow. So if it’s a preference option, that would be fine, but I would probably never use it.
I often stop the AEROS mid song, continue play live and then add the loops back in. If the AEROS would try to save the current song in the meantime, this could potentially be a problem.
Also I have certain loops saved in a song, then I layer them with some loops played on the spot. But next time I open up that song, I want the live looped layers to be gone. Save on Stop would be totally destructive to this workflow.
But I can imagine why certain other workflows would benefit from this feature.
Is there any other Loopstations you guys know of, that have this feature?
