Individual input sources to individual tracks

Aeros Loop Studio Feature Requests
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Hi,
The Aeros has 2 inputs: “main in” and “aux in” that can be selected as recording sources.

Would it be possible to route them individually? For example in 2x2, the “main in” will always be recorded to track 1, and the “aux in” to track 2?

What I envision is that I sing and play guitar at the same time, but my voice and the guitar are recorded to individual tracks. Is that even possible within the architecture of the Aeros?

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Hey there, unfortunately, this is not possible on the Aeros

But if you are recording two mono sources to two separate channels or speakers, you will get a similar behavior where L/R are split. Just record the song with the ‘Record’ song setting set to Stereo and the Routing ‘Playback’ setting to stereo as well.

Then L will only be heard on L and R only on R. Both instruments will record to all tracks, however.

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Hi,
Thanks for the reply. So the only solution would be to have two separate loopers then. Anyways, thanks for clarifying it.

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I was just about to purchase Aeros until I read this. Very sad.
I’ve grown frustrated with my RC-500 but this input routing issue is an absolute deal breaker.
I need to record the guitar loop while singing, so I can solo over it after, or add more parts - but I also want the option to record a vocal part into the looper.

Or perhaps I didn’t understand your response - I’m still just exploring Aeros so I haven’t read the entire manual yet.

This seems like a pretty common use-case. I’m very surprised Aeros doesn’t have this feature. If/when it does, I’m a buyer.

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There is a work-around, although it’s not all that convenient. You can do the signal routing outside the Aeros with an A/B type stompbox. Then you’d need to have a little mixer post-Aeros to mix the un-looped vocal back in.

The extra boxes and cables would kind of defeat the small form factor of the Aeros, but as a last resort, it could work.

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Thanks Tom. Yes, I know that there are AB mic switchers (although not as many as one would think) like from an Aussie company called Loopi, but every extra connection means more space, and more cables, more cost etc.
I may decide it’s worth it.

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Firmware 5.1 apparently lets you change routing settings during recording/playback via MIDI. See the 5.1 beta thread for details.

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5.2.0 allows controlling input levels, even with an EXP pedal, which would serve as a possible workaround to this issue!

Read more here:

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Hi, I’ve recently bought the aeros looper after using the Boss RC500, which had disappointed in several ways I won’t get into here.

So far, I love what I’m seeing with the Aeros, but I do have a few doubts, the biggest one pertaining to what I’m seeing in this thread.

I play guitar, sing, and use some backing tracks. I’d like to be able to exclusively route tracks to either my amplifier or PA for obvious reasons: having all guitar tracks routed out to my amp, and vocals/keys/backing tracks out the PA.

This doesn’t seem to be directly configurable by track like I was hoping, but I see that Brennan has mentioned a work-around:

It seems like despite the cited work-around, one of the biggest remaining drawbacks was that both mono sources will record to the same track, which could be problematic in some cases (See Nickerman’s scenario)

Buuut, further in this thread, it does look like the new firmware which allows input control levels via EXP pedal may serve as a work-around for the above predicament, per Brennan’s most recent reply here.

Apologies for the long post—I just want to confirm the following:

  1. I’ve understood the above.
  2. My understanding of the following is correct: Assuming my settings are set to stereo, a track will be recorded with the left signal coming from one input, the right from another, and will be saved/recallable as such. This should be manageable, assuming I’m consistent with what inputs/outputs I’m assigning to L/R.
  3. My main question: I have some pre-recorded audio files: backing tracks that should be output to the PA and guitar tracks that were originally recorded on my RC500 and should output to my amp. It seems like I’m going to have to go into my DAW and hard-pan each one of these either left or right (depending on where I want each routed), correct?

If I’m correct regarding my last question (and I hope I’m at least capable of doing what I’ve described) I hope it’s clear that being unable to route outputs per track is not ideal. With everything the Aeros can already do, I hope more routing control (particularly per track) is a high priority at this point. I want to love my Aeros pedal and never have to look back to my Boss. Thanks in advance for the help guys.

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‘Nickerman’s scenario’ could be handled without any deep changes to recording or routing functionality if we had the ability to mute L and R outputs individually (preferably per track and with MIDI control). Then you could simultaneously record vox into L and rhythm guitar into R on the same track, and mute L during playback when you wanted to solo over just the rhythm part. This wouldn’t help people who want stereo FRFR for some things while still using a traditional power amp and cab guitar setup, but it would be an improvement.

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Hi there,

With a dedicated MIDI controller (like the MIDI Maestro) you could set up your Aeros to have full control of the L and R channels for each input individually. With a toggling button, you could have one press set the value of 1 channel to 0dB while setting all other channels to -inf on the press and even release to start a recording with a CC recording command. With 4 buttons set this way, you could pretty easily control what is being recorded and what isn’t at any given time and also trigger the recording all in one motion per track, set the toggle to do the opposite (turn the track back to -inf and close the recording), even while actively recording (be careful this could cause a pop if you do it while the signal is recorded due to the drop out).

If you hard-pan your backing tracks yes they will respect the L/R split. There won’t be anything you can do about the summing of all 4 channels to a 2 channel stereo output, unfortunately, this is a limitation of the Aeros, it is not technically a multitracker, it records everything into a stereo stream.

CC Command Values Description Version Added
CC:11
Main L Input Level 0-127 Controls the input level of the Main L input. Value 0 = - inf dB, Value 113 = 0dB (no gain added), Value 127 = +6 dB
 5.2.0
CC:12
Main R Input Level 0-127 Controls the input level of the Main R input. Value 0 = - inf dB, Value 113 = 0dB (no gain added), Value 127 = +6 dB
 5.2.0
CC:13
Aux L Input Level 0-127 Controls the input level of the Aux L input. Value 0 = - inf dB, Value 113 = 0dB (no gain added), Value 127 = +6 dB
 5.2.0
CC:14
Aux R Input Level 0-127 Controls the input level of the Aux R input. Value 0 = - inf dB, Value 113 = 0dB (no gain added), Value 127 = +6 dB 5.2.0

Not necessarily simple, but once it’s set up it will be pretty straightforward, just make sure your L + R inputs are not linked, this can be set in the Mixer 2 screen or in the Device Routing settings menu

Find all MIDI commands here

Thanks for your feedback and questions!