Is there anything being done to allow program change messages to be retained in the BB song file when downloading to the SD card? So that the Program change messages can then be sent out of the MIDI connector on the BB to control other MIDI devices such as a guitar processor.
Are you saying it’s there on the pedal, and then it’s not when you update? If so, sync to your SD card rather than export, and it will not overwrite the settings on your BB.
No, this is before it gets to the SD card and the pedal. If a MIDI file has a program change command in it and is used in any position in a Beat buddy song (Intro/Loop/Outro) when making a song in the Beatbuddy Manager software, after saving the project then exporting the MIDI file from the Beatbuddy Manager program and examining it, the program change has been deleted from the file. It seems when saving a song in the Beatbuddy manager, the software changes all MIDI files to “MIDI format 0” and all notes to channel 10 and deletes anything that isn’t a note. I would like to be able to send program changes I have placed in preset positions in my songs out of the Beatbuddy MIDI connector to other devises such as a guitar processor. Impossible if the BBM software deletes them before they reach the Beatbuddy pedal.
Probably not anytime soon. Singular Sound liked the concept of sending PCs but implied that it wasn’t at the top of their list for development.
See Phil_Flood’s comment in this thread CC commands in midifile
Ah, you were trying to get your BB songs to run stuff over MIDI. Gotcha.
So, I have my BB running my DMX-controlled lights, but not directly, because the BB (and Reaper, the way I’m editing and exporting my MIDI files) strips out all but notes. I pass the MIDI output from the BB through a MIDI Solutions Event Processor Plus, where it translates a single Note-01 MIDI command into a “Next scene in the sequence” command for my lights. I’m betting you could program the same system to do most (if not all) of what you want to do, as well. It’s a few extra bucks, but you’re asking the BB to do a few extra things. And it can make the BB the heart of all of your show automation.
So short answer, the BB won’t do it on its own, but that does not mean it can’t be done.
Event Processor Plus: http://midisolutions.com/prodepp.htm
Power supply: http://midisolutions.com/prodpwr.htm
Happy to help if I can…
I’m doing it the exact opposite way using my guitar processor (which is a Helix) to send PC messages and control messages to the BeatBuddy. MUCH easier and efficient that way.
What PC and CC’s are you sending to the Beatbuddy and what are they controling?
I send an automatic PC whenever I select a preset to select the appropriate BeatBuddy song to match the preset on the Helix, then I have stomp buttons defined that send start, fill, pause, transition chorus/verse and end CC’s
Hey there, this is not currently possible but I’ve shared your request, thanks for your suggestion!
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That’s a great idea ! I use BB with synths, sequencer, vocal processor, and it would be awesome to automate some PCs for different parts…
The BeatBuddy will not be able to do this but it can already (as of 4.1.4) send out the same MSB LSB and PC (or only MSB and PC in Aeros Mode) that would open that same BeatBuddy song, so it is based on position.
This is not ideal since there may not be patches on your keyboard that matches what BB sends
You could switch MIDI signals using a special MIDI device to change one message into another. We realize how much further this could go, as we made the Aeros able to do this already when you open a song, it can send any combination of MSB, LSB, and PC.
We may be able to make BB support doing this once BBM2 is ready, BBM1 cannot support this
Are you saying that as of 4.1.4 the BeatBuddy can retain and send Program change messages from the MIDI out port?
Correct! It sends the same message that would open that song 
We also are now on 4.1.6!