Tiny Dancer - silent sections

BeatBuddy Help, Questions and Bugs
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Hi Gurus. I’ve been looking around here all day. I’m trying my best to get my head around the BBMO. I’m really not great with all this stuff. I have been using the BB for years. I have the premium beats. I was trying to fiddle around with the Elton John song ‘Tiny Dancer’ as I think it’s awful…I want to delete the silences that happen with the transitions. I’m finding it all too difficult.

I wonder if there is a list anywhere on this forum of the One Press OP beats that are available. I don’t necessarily always want this option, but sometimes, working out where to put the transitions in a cover song is incredibly time consuming, and I’m getting it wrong.

I know there is a song matching tool, so wondered if there was a list of OP beats.

I’m not great with forums either tbh…it took me ages to work out how to ask this question…sigh.

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Are the silences on purpose there (part of the midi files) or is this the same BBMO bug that always seems to pop up? :thinking:

I think the default for transition fills should be that there is not much silence as you should be able to hold the transition :sweat_smile: But I guess nothing stops you from using regular fills as a transition fill :relieved:

Assuming it’s not a bug, you have two options:

  1. Edit the midi files and that way remove the silence (add sounds)
  2. Replace the fills (midi files)
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I’ll take a look at the song/transition fill structure for Tiny Dancer. Are you using the BeatBuddy Manager (BBM) or the BBMO?

You can find one-press songs by using the forum search function for a certain song title or you can use the Songs category to get a lengthy list of songs posted to the forum. Here’s a link that you can bookmark in your browser Songs - Singular Sound Forum

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Thanks aapo. I am a REAL ludite here, as I read up all I could on the BBMO, and I couldn’t make head nor tail of how to edit. To top it off, the Beat Buddy emulator kept freezing on me, so I couldn’t work out where the silences were. I think they were in the transitions (between parts). If only BBMO were a bit easer to understand. There are no YouTube videos for it that I could find. Only for the BB Manager - which I don’t have. And those are years old.

My head hurts!!!

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Thank you so much persist!. I am only using the BBMO, as I had never downloaded the original BBM on this computer.

If you could have a look at the Tiny Dancer file, that would be amazing.

I’ve had a good listen to the song, and I can’t see why they have so many silences. Part 3 and Part 8 are definitely the Pre-chorus (“Oh how it feels so real”), so I’ve tried fitting the parts around those.

The only silences (no drums parts) in the actual song are:

  • at the start of the song (whole of Verse 1 - i start the BB on the word ‘hand’ of the end of V1)
  • between Verse 2 and the Pre-chorus (Pre-chorus is part 3)
  • between the chorus and Verse 3
  • between verse 3 and the pre-chorus ( pre-chorus is Part 8)

Yet, when I long press my BB, the silences are:

  • start of part 2 (which is half way through V2 - incorrect)
  • start of part 3 (start of pre-chorus - correct)
  • start of part 4 (between Pre-chorus and chorus - incorrect)
  • start of part 7 (Halfway through V3 - incorrect)
  • start of part 8 (Start of Pre-chorus - correct)

So, by my calculations, there should only be silences between:

  • Parts 2 and 3 (between V2 and 1st pre-chorus)
  • Parts 5 and 6 (between Chorus and V3)
  • Parts 7 and 8 (between V3 and 2nd Pre-chorus)

I hope all that makes sense. I did try to work out the BBMO, but my BB emulator kept freezing up, so I was not able to work out what was going on.

The other thing that was frustrating as I was working all this out, was that it depended ‘when’ I long pressed the BB as to whether I got silences at all. If I long pressed at the beginning of the bar, I did get the silences (giving it 3-4 beats to the end of the bar), yet if I long pressed closer to the end of the bar, I didn’t always get them (1-2 beats to the end of the bar). This has never happened before with any other song.

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This sounds exactly like how it would sound if a normal fill was used as a transition :face_with_peeking_eye:

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Hi aapo. It was very strange, as I’d never had silence for 4 beats ever before.

However…I seem to have fixed the situation. I did a firmware upgrade to my Beat Buddy and now the song plays without any silence between transitions at all.

It seems very strange to me that a firmware update would change a premium beat…but there you go…there’s a waste of everyones time…

Thank you x

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Hi Persist. After I typed my huge reply to you which highlighted which parts have the silence sections, I did a firmware update to my Beat Buddy.

Now the song plays fine.

It’s weird to me that a premium song would be effected by a firmware update.

In any case, thank you so much for your time.

I really find this all to be very confusing :slight_smile: