Is the presets on BB more dynamic on stereo mode (using both outs ) or Left and Right are exactly same preset just different levels?
by dynamic I meant hi-hat, cymbals left, and on right tom and drum, you know, as example
It may sound better using stereo outs. There is a design error that if you’re doing mono out of the ‘L/MONO’ jack the instruments that are panned right may not sum/mix to that jack properly.
Best way to know is to give it a try in stereo.
The error is described here…
https://forum.singularsound.com/t/outputs-l-mono-r-something-doesnt-seem-right/13432
I ended up building a simple passive resistor ‘mixer’ to sum left and right out of each output. Some drumsets do sound different using this versus just output from the L/MONO jack.
Using 1/4" TS plugs for this…
Try auditioning the kits using Beat Buddy Manager on your computer’s external speakers. Then you can see or hear which kits have a stereo field built into then
We always run stereo outs (through a stereo Boss volume pedal for dynamics) but consider whether you need to use ‘centered’ kits such as some of those designed by Phil Flood and others when playing live. I love the fills playing across in stereo and do use them but folks sitting at the edges of the speakers’ output fields may lose out. Much like the off axis problems with vocals and all the other issues of putting live sound into a room.
Agreed. i never like a stereo split on live sound, except for a special effect. Like I had one sound guy explain to me one day, “What, you don’t want the people on the left hearing the guitar?”
An effective stereo sound field can be achieved in some live sound situations, but usually it’s pretty tough. Every seat needs to be in the coverage pattern of both left and right speakers. Since most directivity comes from the higher frequencies, horn patterns are what matter. Most PA cab horns have 90 degree horizontal patterns, so keep this in mind when setting up/aiming and deciding how much stereo to go after.
I prefer running everything in stereo, but adjust mixer channel pans based on whether I can get a good stereo coverage in a particular setting. For the BB, this means running L/R out into 2 channels on the mixer and panning L/R or center accordingly.
I’ve only recently got into programming the BeatBuddy and find when running through our PA it’s a much better spread running stereo into two inputs on the mixer.
Agreed. Stereo all the way.
Hi all, for smaller gigs we are setup mono through a single Bose tower and subwoofer. When running mono, is there any advantage to running the BeatBuddy stereo using two channels? Will I great greater output or clarity? Thanks in advance.
I have a similar set up - Bose L1 withOUT a subwoofer.
We notice a difference in stereo. The sound is fuller and for some kits, it sounds deeper and richer.
I’m not sure if the crowd notices but both of us in the duo felt it was a much better sound.
Thank you and appreciate the reply. We will give it a shot next rehearsal.
So, this is in the design and not a bug that can be fixed? I don’t currently use a mixer, but I could solder together @MarkF48’s summing box.
This was brought to Singular Sound’s attention and they have fixed the issue in a subsequent firmware update.
Thank you. So you would say at this point there is no advantage to using both BB stereo outputs into two mixer channels while in a mono PA environment?
I don’t see any advantage however, there are performers on this forum that have offered lots of different thoughts based on their experience. The decision you come up with will probably depend on whether or not you use user-created drum sets that pan the instruments to the left and right and whether or not you want that separation. I really like Phil_Flood’s quote, above.
Thanks again.
I would like to change the EQ on certain individual drums e.g. to change the EQ on the bass drum but not other high frequency drums (hi-hats, snare etc) The easy way would be to send certain drums out of the L and others out of the R then adjust the mix and overall EQ in 2 channels in the FOH mixer. All this would be so simple if the stereo outputs on the BB were separate and individual drums could be panned to left Right and Centre. There is no mention of panning in the BBM Manual so is there a fix to achieve this without buying any more kit?
You can make your own drumset with the desired panning. I believe the sound samples have the two stereo channels baked in so just load them to any app that can modify panning and then use either BBM or BBMO to create/modify a drumset