Aeros firmware 2.13.2

David, how will the “mute once track ends” function that’s being added work with the forgiveness lag? Will you be able to stop the track any time before it ends and up to 0.3s after?

Also, is the mute once track ends quantizing still coming in January? I can’t use the Aeros until it’s been implemented, and while I don’t want to return it, my 60 day return window ends shortly after January.

@Thovy64 not yet. Eventually possibly through the USB port.

@bryanrtyler yes and hopefully yes.

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@DavidPackouz

Hi David,

Will the ‘undo everything since the last save’ function be part of the next beta?

Best regards,
Pim

Hi David,

Please I would like to know when the big update of january wiil be ready??? because I can’t really use the Aeros without “end of loop” in live sessions…

Thanks

@Pim to be honest this isn’t a very high priority right now because most people won’t use this feature, and you have a work around of reloading the song. I understand that’s annoying, but it is a solution.

@mdb which ‘end of loop’ feature are you talking about? mute, change parts, stop? or all of those?

Hi David,

The most important and urgent for me is for change parts end of loop with one click… I can’t use the Aeros yet without this fonction.

when you select a part (only “select”, not select + play), no matter when in the loop and tempo, it will change part at the end of the loop… with a sign that select part is switched and ready to change, like the circle part is blinking… I think that is the easyest way.

There is something strange to do 2 clicks for one result “select + play”… the “active part” and the “select part” are doing the same thing… still looping on the active part… only “select” is needed…

This way “end of loop” is very important for me when I play live… I want to deal a minimum with the change parts and the looper…

Thanks

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+1 This feature would be great

+10000 :wink:

An other thing would be great (but less important than the part change yet), in my show I pass from rythmic guitar to solo guitar, a one click mute/unmute “end of loop” of the select track…

Cheers…

I think that would require Aeros to be master over Beatbuddy (since the beatbuddy doesnt know the length of your loop).

@JaredSmythe what @mdb is requesting is for an end of loop setting when the part change is done with the Aeros, not with the BeatBuddy. If a transition is done on the BB, it happens end of measure.

@mdb the one press part change in 6x6 would work with an end of loop setting because there would be usually enough time to cycle to the part you want before the end of the loop. With the end of measure or immediate (for freeform) setting, it made more sense to use a 2 step method so that you don’t accidentally go to the wrong part.

But I see the value of these two settings. I’ll do my best to get them done ASAP. But I’m balancing this against the other features people are saying are deal breakers, like the MIDI controls and Mute settings, etc.

Yes, that’s what I was saying, @DavidPackouz. You’d have to do the part change on the Aeros in order to do end of loop. The issue is that the Aeros would then have to trigger the transition and fill on the Beatbuddy at the appropriate time (unless done manually). That’s why the end of loop change (while using a Beatbuddy) would require that the Aeros is master.

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Hi David,

Thanks for your help…

The problem is I can’t use Aeros for nothing yet, because for “my use” (and others here) the looper is always the master, specialy for the parts change management… there is no other way to have “the end of loop” fonction for use the parts… out of freeform.

That’s mean a midi out too… to control beatbuddy or other things…

I understand that you have a lot of request, but i can deal without mute settings or MIDI controls (exept midi out) for the moment, but i can’t deal without “end of loop part change” and midi out…

The file management is nedded too, because we have a lot of songs to transfer…

I have a limited time to send back the Aeros, I arrive at the end, I’m very deaspointed to do so… the potential of the Aeros is great, but if i can’t use it, i can’t keep it… it’s why i’m asking when the update will be ready??? and what will be done???

Best regards

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Seem they don’t play live at singular sound, there is no notion of “end of loop” with the beatbuddy too…
Management is very hard for parts change or fills (in the BB), you have always to wait the last mesure of the loop (and look the screen all the time) to stay in tempo… it’s NOT possible in live, you have other things to do…

It’s a very big issue for me, but it’s easy to correct or add… I hope they will… quickly :wink:

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I think the beatbuddy transitioning at measure’s end is fine, as long as the Aeros knows to wait until the loop’s end and can trigger the beatbuddy sometime in that last measure for a fill and transition.

For me the end of mesure is to dangerous live. I think the Aeros need the end loop (in slave or master), like you find in all other loopers on the market… the end of loop avoid a lot of manipulations and secure to stay in tempo…

For exemple select a part + play in Aeros, we don’t need the “play” action, only “select a part” is needed to play the next part at the end of the loop… no matter “when” you select the part in the active loop… now in Aeros the “part” and “the select part” do the same thing, they play the active loop… and you have to wait the last mesure to do “play” for change the part, if you do earlier it will pass immediatly, this can be catastrophic in a show…

Why so many manipulations???

I don’t know if i’m clear??? :grinning:

The “end of loop” is described in the manual of the Aeros, but for the next upgrade, ok but when??? i need it a lot, its crutial for “my” use, and its why I took the Aeros… for me it’s a basic function for a looper…

I have no doubt that the Aeros will become the ultimate looper, but for the moment it is not, no end of loop mode, no master mode, no track and part erase, no USB files management, and so on… I feel like a beta tester…

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They are treating the customers as beta testers, and if they had stated that at all, I wouldn’t have returned mine.

It Seems the software crew doesn’t finish the job, they are very late…

Punch in punch out is missing too…

Unfotunately all the market does the same thing… some are even worse.

It seems they work before on the hardware and after on the software with customer requests…

@mdb the SD card storage function has been completed, we’re just ironing out a few bugs before releasing it. I will ask the dev team to see if they can accelerate the ‘end of loop’ feature – but I cannot guaranty when it will be completed. It’s not a particularly difficult feature to build, so it shouldn’t be very long, but we always get unexpected surprises when coding software.

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