Thanks for your reply but with respect, you’re missing my point! If I want to use the BB as a drum sound processor, I could use a multitude of different bits of kit.
I use Sonar to create my midi drum files and in doing so the BB works fine with tempo change messages being sent and received perfectly. When I save the midi drum file (with tempo changes included) and create a song file in BBM the tempo changes either get ignored or are lost in the conversion from midi to sng file.
Back to my reason for buying the BB, I want to create and use the Beat Buddy as a player of midi drum tracks without the complications of lugging around additional bits of kit. The one press capability of a single pedal is perfect but as far as midi capability, it’s a pedal that is unfinished with the absence of such an important feature as midi tempo speed control.
I use the BB as master so all my songs are at the tempo I set them to.
So do I, but can you get it to slow the tempo at the end of a song by using control messages within the midi file developed in a DAW?
Rossmusic, have a good look at some tutorials phil flood has put up. He shifts the notes across bar to achieve same effect (as if slowing or speeding up) while BB happilly plays along at same ‘tempo’. It means that beats don’t match visual display while you’re notes are at odd intervals… but it’s the bird in the hand right now.
It’s in two parts and the files got lost (a crash and a site name change?) and were then reposted by Phil , so bear with it… but it could help you… if you use Logic pro… but most DAWs have some sort of time stretching/loop or part sizing ability. I use Cubase and while I haven’t done what Phil is talking about… I know I could.
Tutorial part 1
Part 2
I am not able to download the firmware. The link seems broken.
Yes, this is what I do. It is a compromise, it takes a little bit of extra time, but it works. No MIDI necessary.
I would suggest starting a dialog with support@singularsound.com about how to best get your workflow set up in a way that works best for you.
We didn’t think this would be necessary since the BeatBuddy can already do this with one tap. Fill with one tap is possible via MIDI.
We do have a control change for it, but it does not work in the way your system supports maybe. It’s possible you would need a tempo command that changes the BeatBuddy’s tempo value by value based on the CC value. We do have that (sort of) in the form of a MSB LSB and PC NRPN, meaning if you sent all three values it can open a specific tempo from 40-300BPM. This is explained in the BeatBuddy Manual in the MIDI section.
This is what I would suggest, the BeatBuddy does change tempo on the fly to incoming clock
You can either post them on the forum as a new thread in the appropriate category or report them to support@singualrsound.com
Thanks for your patience
There is built in functionality in the MIDI Maestro to control BeatBuddy tempo by default, plug and play.
So this is possible. The problem arises when trying to allow for control of all the tempo range when there are only 128 values in a CC command. We did our best to solve this in our own proprietary format using the MIDI Maestro and an Expression pedal.
The BeatBuddy only responds to the notes and the time signature of MIDI files.
Thanks for all the feedback!
Thanks for your detailed analysis but!!! The convenience of using the BB goes out of the window if it can’t recognise the midi messages without additional kit.
Yes my DAW is either Sonar, or Cakewalk which sends midi messages to the BB acting as a slave. However, it seems that the conversion of the midi file to a .sng in BBM dumps the vital midi messages. If only the BB could act as a midi file player, all would work fine.
I didn’t think I would have to buy additional kit to create songs that get me back to working with responsive midi files with volume, panning and tempo changes within my songs.
BeatBuddy firmware version 4.1.4 download link has been added to the original post 
HI,David.What I am concerned about is whether the CC command sent at the end of the transition can have multiple options, such as CC84 Or one of CC80-87(for RC-5). There are also other CC commands for other loopers.Thanks!
We do not prioritize full compatibility with 3rd party loopers for pretty obvious reasons, the Aeros is the looper made to be compatible with the BeatBuddy.
There are 3rd party appliances I’ve seen mentioned on the forum that can change CC commands into a desired one, this may solve your issue
Thanks for your question
Okay, I’ll go search for it. Thanks!
Hi all,
we are considering making the Transition Forgiveness setting enabled by default
Is anyone still having issues when it is enabled?
Is there a particular reason why you want to make a non-passive change like that? People who want it can already turn it on.
Seems like there was pretty strong sentiment that the ability to utilize a full measure transition was more valuable than fixing a “playing mistake (late transition)” that it doesn’t seem like very many people are having.
Hey there,
It is not that simple, the BeatBuddy does not work correctly with the Aeros as master unless transition forgiveness is on. So unless the setting causes issues when turned on, it makes more sense to always have on and let people turn off if it bothers them.
Again this only affects the midi control not the main pedal function,
Thanks for the question!
Would this affect only newly shipped Beat Buddies? Or would you silently change the setting for people that upgrade?
It’s risky to change a setting on a upgrade without some sort of prompt/choice in the UI…
I would HOPE that it’s only the Default setting that come with the pedal (or if you restore to defaults).
There’s no reason an update would need to muck with the “real” settings that are actually on your card.
Thanks for the question, no this is not about automatically changing everyone’s settings it is about changing the default setting