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I will get there soon, I am taking my time to read from all past to most recent posts as a means of organization, I promise you I will get here and respond adequately when I do.
We are definitely looking into panning soon, but I have not read the entire thread here yet.
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Sorry to have so many little posts on this Panning topic - but I’ve been experimenting and learning what would really be the most valuable (and maybe easiest to implement).
I think the biggest impact of Panning is BEFORE RECORDING of each track or overdub, as it lets you adjust the placement of that new audio in the stereo spectrum. Panning of already-recorded tracks with overdubs limits the stereo placement options, as the audio is already merged.
Using external panning, I’ve made recordings of 2 tracks, with, let’s say, 3 overdubs each. If that was just flat stereo, it’d be OK … but with pre-record panning, I can have audio in 6 different places in the stereo mix - making it much better.
Pre-record panning might be easy to implement - using the Loop Volume control (when the looper is idle or in playback mode, not in the Mixer) to display a L ----±--------------R image. Moving the footknob slides the + to the right spot in the spectrum, and that’s where the next track or overdub will land in the Stereo.
This would remove any need to pan in the mixer during playback of tracks … as the panning is already done, the mixer could stay focused on volume levels.
Not trying to tell you what to do – just wanted to provide something concrete about a requirement that’s kind of fuzzy to nail down.
You’ll roll this in with everything else you see and learn to figure out what’s best.
Cheers
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I think pre-panning is a great idea. Extremely nice. Because, in combination with overdubbing, hard panning (in pre-recording mode) could actually be used to virtually double the track count. Of course, it wouldn’t equate to a true 12-track looper, but you could use a stereo track to record two different tracks that could be - if hard panned - still separated from the .wav files. I like the idea. Honestly, I don’t see many people changing the panning of their tracks once the track recording has been made - does it really make sense? (it does ‘make sense’ if you are mixing on the looper itself, but I imagine proper mixing will require to pull out the wav files and use an external DAW anyway). Setting the panning before the recording, is very flexible (in terms of stereo imaging).
Something for the EXP IN - as a system setting. EXP IN = Audio Input Pan?
I think it would be just good to have panning that is adjustable before or after. Sometimes, i just wanna get it all in there and then listen and decide what goes where, best.
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Have panoramics on the inputs and panoramics on each tracks is necessary . A lots of stereo loopers have this and is not for fun. This is to not record the right channel and the left channel.
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This is a cool idea, I’ll pass it on, makes sense to me
Something to explore definitely
Ok. We’ll bear this in mind, thank you
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I’m all for this. Can’t wait to pan the things.
+1 on this! 
Hi everyone,
I agree with Thovy64 ,it’s absolutely necessary.(while recording or even post mixing).
I was thinking of buying the aeros next week when I saw that this wasn’t available on the machine so I will wait and see for the moment, too bad…
Do you have an idea when the panning options will be released please?
Btw I know it’s not the topic here but could you please tell me what is the exact sample rate and kind of converters on-board?
Cheers
Hey there,
Panning is something that will require a rework of the entire mixer, so that is not something that will be done quickly. That being said it is something that we are really excited about and we are definitely intending to add to the Aeros.
Stay tuned
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I’d underline the difference between panning on INPUT, to place a track ready for recording, and panning the OUTPUTs from the mixer.
I can see where panning the OUTPUTS from the mixer would require revamping - but that mode is the least useful, in my experience, and I’d vote for holding that till later.
If you could first implement panning on INPUT - it might be much simpler to do - and it would be hugely helpful to the unit.
There might be two scenarios:
- I have a mono input on one of the input jacks. I want to place that anywhere from L to R in the stereo spectrum.
- I have a stereo signal on both input jacks. I want to narrow that and move it anywhere L to R.
Even if you started by releasing option 1 above, it would be great.
You might use two of the push button switches to click little increments L or R to find the right place in the stereo, or maybe the rolling foot knob could be used.
Bottom line - please consider breaking panning into some incremental functionality that you can release over time – do make us wait for a huge development chunk. The incremental, Agile approach will be better for we users.
Thanks,
Dave
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I’d rather see it happen after the fact, as I layer more things, I will most likely want to set where they are in the mix.
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Long time looper, but a new Aeros user here (Christmas present!).
Panning is desperately needed. I’d be happy to have pre or post recording which ever is quickest to implement. Definitely agree that pre would seem easier and would be my first priority. Absolutely critical for mono signals like many guitar preamp/cab pedals (I’m using the Ampli-firebox). Even for something like the strymon Iridium which has stereo out, there is no pan, so you get a stereo “room” but down the center peak volume.
I was just looking for an analog panning pedal to do this in the mean time.
This is something we hope to get to very soon, we have already started redesigning the mixer!
Stay tuned!
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When do you think the dream came thru?
This is a big deal. Two thumbs up. I’d give you more but it’s all I have!
Hi,
Any news on it?
I’ve seen you’re working on the Midi Stuff improvement. Nice. But I’m not a Midi guy and am rather waiting for the panoramic improvement. Desperately waiting for it I must say., almost since the very beginning. This sooooo long.
This is not that far off but it is not currently being worked on, no. We cannot split our team to work on more than one major improvement at a time if we wish to release once every month or so. We understand this is important to you but all features are important to everyone, depends who you ask. We try our best to accommodate what we believe is most critical, but cannot make everyone happy, though we do try!
Thanks for your feedback and your patience.
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