Please refer to the new forum tagging post and continue the subject there, thank you!
@LaurentB 's question is what we all would like to know, me too! And itās related to 3+ release.
Why not give a simple answer to a simple question?
Hey there,
this particular thread can become very bulky, very quickly. Itās best for the team, and thus for the customers, to keep threads on topic and open new ones if there is an issue that was not addressed.
I will gladly answer questions put in the appropriate place!
Thanks 
Hi, and where is the more appropriate place for a question on content and timeline of the Aeros 3+ release with reference to a statement that @DavidPackouz made in this forum category?
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What we are working on next:
- Locked tracks feature (keep some tracks playing while song parts change)
- Auto Quantize (Record first track in song part in Freeform and Aeros quantizes it)
This is a general list of things we plan to do soon after this release. It is not an official timeline.
Locked tracks is the next update after this one. We then plan on implementing a quick release with enhanced hands-free usage, and then we will begin working on auto quantize.
I do all my recording with an external MIDI clock, and Iām trying to do two things without stopping the Aeros internal clock (the PLAY/STOP ALL button). Iām using 2x2 mode.
Is it possible to do either of these things without stopping the Aeros internal clock?
- Clear the loop length (the red lines) from the current track, so that I can replace the loop I had with a new loop of a different length
- Clear the current part (both tracks), so that I can record a whole new idea
Itās not an option to stop the external MIDI clock. And if I stop the internal clock by pressing the PLAY/STOP ALL button, when I re-start it (by pressing the button again), Aeros is out of sync with the external MIDI clock.
Thanks!
More than one month since the release of this buggy firmware nowā¦
Iām wondering how long it takes to deliver the expected fixes.
Honestly if you plan to wait to complete the development of the extra features not yet delivered to roll-out the fixes for the last firmware which should have been released within days, you have a clear prioritization issueā¦
If it is because of extensive tests to ensure you donāt repeat the disaster of the last delivery, and it takes you one month to test everything then itās that you have a clear test automation issueā¦
In a nutshell, waiting for a new release for new features is acceptableā¦ waiting ages to see critical issues fixes delivered is not.
You have to tailor your development process so that urgent critical issues could be patched within hours not months ! And you have to automate your test process so that it backs you up, gives you confidence in your deliveries, not gives you an excuse to delay your deliveriesā¦
Now one month laterā¦ everyone has been super-patientā¦ Time for you to act !!
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nothing to add ā¦ Iām really sick of this amateurism. Every loop is dirty. I donāt even dare to sell it. Itās been a year since I put my savings in this product, and itās a jamman that I use because this looper is useless to me. I can tell you that I defended you on the European forums so that people would be patient, but here you are going beyond the limits. We made videos to show you that your loop stitching was gross. But what the hell are you doing!
Hi David
I donāt like to say it but it seems you have a great pain with this Aeros.
I realy like the formfactor but were is the professional firmware to make it a real tool?
I bought it knowing it was not completely finish but I join Thovy64, itās been a while now and we wonder to have the tool we expected ! Itās out of my board right now and donāt know if it will go back one day ? ā¦
Please could you give us your development roadmap if there is one.
Since then we canāt tell people to by this looper, it cost some money and is not trustable so it is not realy usable.
We were patiently waiting for your frimware updates but this time is over. You could add some more fonctions in future if needed but I personnaly first hope to have a trusty working tool.
Sincerely yours and hope to have a reassuring answer.
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This is bizarre to me, because I havenāt had any issues for many months. I prefer the Aeros to the Headrush Looperboard right now because the Aeros is far less buggy than the looperboard, or even the Boss 505 for that matter.
Iām just not seeing the severe bugs to cause the anger, I guess.
He might be referring to issues with the Beta (and perhaps he really needs features in the beta and those in future releases).
Bugs are fair game and expected for a Beta. I know it can be hard when the beta has something you really want and itās not ready for other reasons.
The Aeros is getting pretty close to delivering on everything promised initially. Thereās a very long tail of other features and changes that we will be happy to have. Iāve bought into the tradeoff of waiting patiently for that. Thereās a reason I went with Aeros and not Boss. While Iād love faster releases, more time commitments, and control over what gets done, thatās not my place or reasonable.
I can understand the feelings, but the emotions and frustration (justified or not) are something to take out elsewhere.
[Sorry for the long message.Hoping this doesnāt turn into a message board where we talk more about each otherās messages and less about substance.]
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I completely agree with you. FYI, I have had few issues even with the Aeros betas. Looperboard betas, however, are insanely buggy. Even their official releases are plenty buggyāsorry to harp on that, but Iāve been away from my Aeros lately and have only the Looperboard to use until Thursday.
All the bugs Iām seeing with MIDI sync exist in both the beta and the latest stable release Aeros Loop Studio MIDI sync / looping issues (major bug)
Here is the bug that make me aeros inusable:
-Aeros firmware 3.1.x
-On press events still do not work - pops at the end of each loop!
I think if I understand that correctly, thatās a feature request for either Aeros-as-master or time-stretch. Both of those would be new features, not really bug fixes, I think, if i put on my dev hat for a minute. I donāt use prerecorded my tracks, so that could be why I havenāt seen the lack of those features as problematic.
Yeah, for certain types of instruments and genres, that could be an annoying problem. Hopefully they fix that soon.
Hey, one more here
- who is waiting and waiting and waiting
- who would appreciate clarity and transparency on a reliable release plan and
- who has bought a device and cannot use it
As far as Iām concerned, Iām not directly complaining about too many bugs as I mostly run 2x2 without midi. My priority is on the missing functionality @DavidPackouz announced long a ago. However, as long as bugfixing takes months new feature delivery is not satisfactory either.
See:
What we are working on next:
- Locked tracks feature (keep some tracks playing while song parts change)
- Auto Quantize (Record first track in song part in Freeform and Aeros quantizes it)
- Hands free song navigation system
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Hey guys,
The frustration you are feeling is understandable. We know that the Aeros is not where you expect it to be, we expected things to go much faster than they have, too. For that, we apologize, but this looper already has surpassed many other loopers. We just havenāt covered all bases to make this a truly universally usable looper.
Some may not have seen my replies, but we have reworked the approach of cross fades. This changed the way the Aeros behaves and records at the loop seam and has been tricky to perfect, but that is what we have spent this time doing.
We have also implemented some hotfixes:
We allowed muting of other tracks while recording. We have added alphabetized organization, as well.
Our last big hurdle is the pops, which are now just nearly all weeded out.
On the bright side, we have come to decide this will be the last big update we do. The current workflow will be refined to be hyper focused on smaller, more consistent releases. We see how by making these huge releases, we are getting stuck in corner cases and new bugs and often times missing crucial flaws and not being able to deliver for some time because of the critical nature of all these features. We want to give you all the perfect pedal, we are very close to that reality once this release is perfected.
Lock tracks is up next, dev has already begun looking at it and are hopeful it will not take long to implement.
Because this is a recent change in timeline we have shifted some releases around so I will update you all with a more solid roadmap of what we expect to release in the near future.
Thank you all for your passion and your contributions because it will be with them that this looper reaches its full potential.
Let me know if you have any further questions.
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Thanks for your answer.
Will be pleased to try the next update ā¦
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One question. When the loop seam is going to work?