BeatBuddy Firmware 4.1.x “Options, lots of options!”

[BrennanSingularSound]

@tERRY_mARTIN

So forgiveness can be disabled on the latest BB firmware

Correct, it is off by default

@BFRedrocks

I disabled the transition forgiveness using the latest firmware and all works well now…no more getting out of synch with my Aeros, at least for me.

Great!

[tERRY_mARTIN]

Seems odd that I’m suddenly not able to hit the transitions right. If I press transition on the last beat as I always used to it now goes straight into the next pattern instead of playing the transition. It works perfectly on BBM. Is there a setting I need to tweak?

[BFRedrocks]

@tERRY_mARTIN

Seems odd that I’m suddenly not able to hit the transitions right. If I press transition on the last beat as I always used to it now goes straight into the next pattern instead of playing the transition.

Same (or similar) here. I disabled the transition forgiveness, but there are still times where I press the transition too close to the first beat of a measure, and it immediately transitions without playing the transition fill. I moved the setting to play a fill on the next beat (instead of immediately), but I don’t think (or know) if that setting controls the transition fill too. If not, it probably should.

@DavidPackouz

Transition forgiveness: If the BeatBuddy receives a song part transition MIDI command (CC:113, value 0) in the first 300ms of the measure, it will change song parts immediately without a transition fill and stay in time to the beat. This is because most likely the user intended the transition to occur in this measure and was a bit late in sending the command. This is common when trying to transition at the end of the measure, rather than in advance. This is the same way the Aeros works.

Reading this suggests to me that what I’m experiencing is the transition forgiveness as David described, but mine should be off, so maybe the on/off setting isn’t working for me after all. I’ll have to investigate further.

[tERRY_mARTIN]

I’ve tried forgiveness on and off and I experienced the same result.

[Ed1970]

Thanks for the info. It looks like I’m going to hold off on updating, then.

[Aliby]

Just a note that the link for Firmware on your Support page still goes to the older version:

BeatBuddy Firmware 4.0.x "Playlists!"

Hi fellow BeatBuddies! EDIT: (Nov 11, 2021) We are changing version 4.0.1 designation from beta to an official release! Please note that there is a rare known bug in this version (it is fixable, however), see below the changelog for more info. We updated the BeatBuddy Manual (download here) and made a printer friendly version (no dark backgrounds). Download BeatBuddy Firmware 4.0.1 Here! [How to Upgrade Your BeatBuddy Firmware For the Latest Drum Machine Features] Be…

I suggest you have a bulliten thread (where no one can respond), that announces new Firmware releases. The announcement can then link to a forum discussion where people can comment etc.

[BrennanSingularSound]

It’s odd that you report this @tERRY_mARTIN and @Ed1970 because it seems on our end that there is no change between 4.1.1 and 4.0.1

4.0.1 Transitions

4.1.1 Transitions

Please take a video showing the issue you are specifying in practice and please also be sure you are not experiencing the same issue in the previous firmware.

From our end, we aren’t seeing an issue but it may be something several people are noticing.

Developer says the only strings related to the change have been turned off with the setting

Please let us know!

[BrennanSingularSound]

This firmware is still not live it is a beta firmware, the link on the website will be updated once this version is no longer beta.

Thanks for your feedback

[richp]

Having next part and previous part on footswitches is fantastic, thank you. Up until now I’ve had to use a midi pedal for that but this is much nicer

[BrennanSingularSound]

The link at the top of the thread has been updated with a new beta version 4.1.2

All reported bugs appear to have been squashed

[RichiKi]

I operate with firmware v 4.0 and I am trying to address each beat in the complete library + GM with MSB, LSB and Prgm. That works up to LSB 110.
When I get to LSB 111, it stops working. So even though the Manual states that all MSB and LSB commands can call on folders and songs/beats, that does not appear to be the case. Up to LSB 111 with MSB set to 0 LSB set to 0-110 (represents folders) all works well and Prgm represents the song number.
Now I am aware that playlists use LSB 111 in firmware v 4.0 which would explain why my method does not work as a folder/song addressing scheme. With the new version I can switch to using MSB = 127 to access playlists thus liberating LSB 111, but will reverting to the default mode allow me to use LSB 111 (and up) to continue to address the folders in the library? If so, how do I change from the Aeros version of MIDI to the default MIDI mode?
I have included the text of the Manual on the MIDI adressing below:

o The folder is selected with the Bank Select Message (Bank MSB and LSB)
and the song is selected with the Program change. If on version 4.0.1, only
LSB 0-110 correspond to the BeatBuddy folders. LSB 111-127 open
playlists 1-17
o Each of the 128 values of Bank MSB (Most Significant Bit) value can have
128 folders as selected by the value of Bank LSB (Least Significant Bit).
o This gives a potential of 128 MSB x 128 LSB = 16,384 different folders with
128 songs each (selected by the Program Change [PC] command)

UPDATE: Found and installed version 4.1.2 today and it resolved my issue. I can now access all 139 folders of the Complete Library + GM using MIDI CC: MSB, LSB, Program Change. Happy again! No issues to report with the new firmware version. Works great.

[BrennanSingularSound]

@RichiKi

UPDATE: Found and installed version 4.1.2 today and it resolved my issue. I can now access all 139 folders of the Complete Library + GM using MIDI CC: MSB, LSB, Program Change. Happy again! No issues to report with the new firmware version. Works great.

thanks for reporting

[Joelstanfield]

I’m having a similar issue but I’ve been on the new firmware.

[Joelstanfield]

I had the same problem basically. I had the MIDI commands programmed into a Samsung tablet using a different program but any songs I had in Playlist 2 on the beat buddy would no longer open when I sent the MIDI commands from the tablet. I had to go back to firmware 4.0.1 to get it to work again.

[BrennanSingularSound]

@Joelstanfield

I’m having a similar issue but I’ve been on the new firmware.

There was a bug reported in the latest version of Onsong, not sure if this could be related

There is also a setting on the BeatBuddy in version 4.1.3 that changes how the Device opens Playlists

4.1.3 is now available at the top of this thread

Go to Main Pedal > MIDI Settings > MIDI IN > Program Change (PC) and select the one that works best for you

For Aeros mode, the sacrifice is that you lose the ability to open any song that is in or after folder no. 111 and cannot control any MSB banks. This is because LSB 111-128 control the Playlists on the BeatBuddy and MSB is ignored.

If you prefer this please switch to Aeros mode, this was how it worked by default in 4.0.1.

In default mode, you can open playlist songs using MSB 127 LSB 127 PC0-127

[jrsam]

Hi everybody,

Happy New Year.

I just updated with the new version 4.1.2.

There are interesting update like Transition with No-Fill. I was waiting for that.

The Pause option where you can outro also interesting.

Suggestion:

1. When it is paused, I think it would be nice if there we were given the choice to stop or Outro. Cause for now we can either Outro or Stop. Some songs can Pause and Stop. Some can Pause and then Outro.

2. I don’t if it is possible. If I am wrong, let me know. When pause, you can go to next part. I think we should be given the option to go to next part without a fill. For now if you go to next part when pause, there will be a fill.

Bug:
While playing, it restart by itself and volume went to 7%. I encounter this only one time. I will continue to monitor. I don’t know if it is a bug or what other reasons can cause this.

[Bighouse]

Waiting to buy a BeatBuddy with confidence that AutoPilot will be a real thing. Are there any updates to the current firmware with that feature planned or addressed in any way?

[BrennanSingularSound]

@jrsam

When it is paused, I think it would be nice if there we were given the choice to stop or Outro. Cause for now we can either Outro or Stop. Some songs can Pause and Stop. Some can Pause and then Outro

Not sure I understand the request, you can already set the Footswitch to Stop the song immediately while paused if the footswitch is set to Outro while the song Paused

@jrsam

Bug:
While playing, it restart by itself and volume went to 7%. I encounter this only one time. I will continue to monitor. I don’t know if it is a bug or what other reasons can cause this.

Please update to 4.1.3 I has been posted at the top of this thread

@Bighouse

Waiting to buy a BeatBuddy with confidence that AutoPilot will be a real thing. Are there any updates to the current firmware with that feature planned or addressed in any way?

This update has no changes to do with Autopilot

That does not mean we are not working towards it,

thanks for the question

[jrsam]

@BrennanSingularSound

Not sure I understand the request, you can already set the Footswitch to Stop the song immediately while paused if the footswitch is set to Outro while the song Paused

Let me try to explain.

I got my beatbuddy connect as such:

1. BeatBuddy Main Pedal + Footswitch(1st FS – 2nd FS) + Maestro Midi Controller

2. My first Footswitch is set as such:
   When Stopped: Unpause

3. Second footswitch:
   While Playing: Pause
   Stopped: UnPause

Currently I updated from 3.80 to 4.1.2 and 4.1.2 to 4.1.3, I noticed that the Unpause converted to Outro even on the Midi Controller. In the settings of the Main Pedal, there is the followings:

Main Pedal>Unpause Behavior>External Device Unpause>:

1. Follow Main Pedal Outro Setting
2. Outro Stop Songs

When it is set on “Follow Main Pedal Outro Setting”, if I take my usual settings on my footswitch which is 1st FS(Pause:Stop | Playing: Outro) and 2nd FS(Pause/Unpause), can’t stop as when Pause it will OUTRO. No way to stop. To Stop, we are compelled to OUTRO (“Follow Main Pedal Outro Setting”). In-fact the new option is great but I think we should have the option to stop and at the same time on another button/device to outro if we wish and vice versa. Really sorry for my english.

Now if it is set to “Outro Stop Songs”, If I take my usual settings on my footswitch as mentioned above:
On pause, we will be able to stop. But I won’t have the Option to Outro when Paused.

My suggestion will be to add a third option in
Main Pedal>Unpause Behavior>External Device Unpause>:

1. Follow Main Pedal Outro Setting
2. Outro Stop Songs
3. Liberty ( Sorry I use this word just for demonstration. This will allow us to use both Outro and Stop on different Switch at the same time)

With this 3rd option we will be able to:

1. Pause and then Unpause.
2. Fill>Pause and Unpause
3. Fill> Pause and Stop
4. Pause and Outro
5. Fill> Pause and Outro

I don’t know if I have been able to explain my point.

On the other hand, perhaps it is possible to use Outro and Stop at the same time and I don’t know how to do it. If so let me know to proceed. Else hope to get an update on the third option .

Thanks

[BrennanSingularSound]

Maybe try this:

Set the Main Pedal Unpause (Main Pedal > Unpause Behavior > Main Pedal Unpause) and set Tap to Stop Song.

Then set External Unpause to Follow Main Pedal Outro setting

Then set the footswitch to outro while paused

Does this work for you?