Set MIDI mode with 'next part' button -- Disable/Client/Master

[BrennanSingularSound]

Hello there, batch requests are not allowed on the forum (as per the forum rules), I will move this to the feedback subtopic and you are more than welcome to reinput all requests that don’t already exist. This is because batch requests are not easily tagged or tracked. Just restate the request and you can link to this post to avoid restating everything.

@kingofthejaffacakes

so for songs that don’t require a drum beat, it’s very hard to just drop into looping with the Aeros

Just to understand, freeform mode won’t work in this case?

@kingofthejaffacakes

I’d extend this though: it’s not possible to have the MIDI out of Aeros connected to MIDI in of BeatBuddy when MIDI out of BB is connected to MIDI in of Aeros – it goes a bit crazy. At present that’s not a problem – but when Aeros-as-master is supported, with tempo set by Aeros, it will be useful to have both operating modes available without having to re-cable.

I am not certain MIDI is at the point to handle the changing master, and this is a definite way to cause a MIDI feedback loop, possibly setting BB to listen to all channels, but send out on ch 2, and Aeros only listens on Ch 2 but sends on Ch 1 or 3 maybe? Not sure there, nonetheless, I don’t know how apt MIDI is at handling a change of master without recabling. Take a look at this request for Bi-drectional handling, the same conclusion leads me to believe it may not be possible to physically set up the Aeros and BB to be switching roles as the master without mishap.

We have gotten a request to disengage sync please forward your comment there if you’d like, this just helps us stay organized and helps you track the issue.

@kingofthejaffacakes

As a continuation of the above – the Aeros treats BeatBuddy “part transition” as equivalent to “start”. Why? If I’ve stopped the Aeros after the BeatBuddy has started, I don’t want to fight it every time.

This is because user’s may need the BB to start playback of the Aeros from stopped after it transitions, it could be this is not necessary, not sure about how many people are relying on CC102 starting the Aeros from stopped. That is a good point you bring up and we can look into it, still, the BB sends a MIDI start at the beginning of the song, so it would still start up Aeros, what would work best is a means of filtering the messages.

@kingofthejaffacakes

MIDI master. This is what you call “Auto quantize”.

I’m confused by your statement, because MIDI master capabilities and auto-quantize are not considered as one feature, auto quantize will most likely be expanded upon to be able to work with the Aeros as master clock to another device, check out this thread on auto quantize mode

@kingofthejaffacakes

Ignore MIDI transport control. Aeros would reasonably accept MIDI tempo, but would ignore start/part change MIDI commands. In this way one could also easily perform a song with drums+intro that is synced to the loop, but isn’t the loop yet (e.g. High and Dry by Radiohead, you don’t want to create the loop until after an instrumental intro)

If you set MIDI start (global settings) to playback only, the empty song will “scroll” but will not record on the Aeros, so this is already doable. We are hoping to find ways of making this setting more easily accessible but that may not be for a few updates.

@kingofthejaffacakes

Potentially this might also be the place to add ‘free form’ mode.

There is a free form mode turn off quantization in the song settings to enter “freeform”

Please let me know if you have any other questions!

Thank you