Aeros Firmware 5.0.x

[GUY1]

broken caps button and message was anything but rude
still broken in case you take this a rude

[persist]

I’m thinking you need a new keyboard

[Quad]

@persist

you need a new keyboard

Now that’s rude.

[BrennanSingularSound]

@guitarspace

If I turn on Aeros then use midi cc35 value:01 to entry Loop Studio. Aeros will keep Loading Song. I have to restart the Aeros and use touch screen to entry Loop Studio.

Thanks for reporting we will look into this

@BFRedrocks

“Select” MIDI message (CC:36, Value 2) works just fine for opening a song if it’s already highlighted in the list. It just takes a little longer for the first one, but after that it seemed to work okay.

Good to know!

@BFRedrocks

Where there is a MIDI message difference on my existing setup is that the “Songs” page MIDI message (CC: 35, Value 0) appears to go to the internal memory slot, so if I have all my songs on the SD card (which I currently do), then there are no songs listed.

Thanks for reporting we will look into this

@dwdavedw

Mixer, Switch RPO, Undo, Mute, Reverse, Solo, Fade to Mute, Lock Track, Unlock Track. Not sure what all of them do.

Mixer opens the mixer
Switch RPO changes the RPO setting to ROP or vice versa
Undo undoes the track
Mute mutes the track
Reverse reverses the track
Solo solos the track
Fade to mute makes the track fade and then mute
Lock track locks the track
Unlock track unlocks the track if it is locked

@dwdavedw

which I got working in the Loop studio, but with the card inserted in the loop studio, it shows no folders and no background song - and I can’t seem to figure out how to transfer songs to the SD Card.

You must create the first album in the SD card if your SD was previously empty

Are you saying you had music on there that did not convert after clicking yes on the pop up?

You can move songs from the songs page, go inside any album and you can press and hold the right button to enter multiselect mode. This way you can select all the songs you’d like to move in the album.

Once you have them selected, press the middle button Move

This will show you a screen with all the albums in the current device, press the middle button, ‘SD Card’, to change the memory device and choose the album you would like to move it to.

If an album does not exist on your SD, then you must make one and then finish moving the songs

I know this is a lot we are working on documentation and videos!

@padouen32

Would it be possible to have bigger fonts on the song list?

We do not currently have plans to make the font any bigger in the songs list, but we are open to it possibly if there are enough people having issues with it.

@Joelstanfield

So will the Aeros cause the BB to transition now in 6x6 mode if you use the Aeros as the master

Yes, the Aeros as transmitter has a setting (midi>midi out) called Transition which will send the CC113 commands necessary to transition BB

Note! You have to have Bb transition forgiveness turned on for this to work! This is available in beta 4.1.3.

@dwdavedw

Question: when I boot up I still get the Convert Songs? dialogue - is there a way to get rid of it, or is
that standard operating proceedure?

No this should not happen, are your converted songs loading correctly? Are any missing?

What does you SD look like inserted to computer? Is it messy in any way? We’re there any files that were not song folders on your SD prior to to the conversion?

Please let me know and send me a screenshot of your SD contents if you can

@dwdavedw

With Beat Buddy: prior to start, tracks display “ARM”, with beat buddy start, Track 1 immediately starts to record, and track 2 displays “RECORD”.

Are you sure you are not setting the auto record threshold (settings>behavior) too low? Make sure you leave enough room to not let noise (like when a distortion pedal is on) trigger the auto record

@roybjensen

What I would really like is to be able to load WAV files into each track, as I can do with another looper I have, for each part.

This is already possible, just make sure that on top of setting the song to freeform you also have sync tracks off

Make sure to save the settings before loading a track in.

You will have to repeat the process for loading a backing track in for each track

Only one can load in at once

@Joelstanfield

I can’t get the MIDI settings set up correctly to have the Aeros cause the BB to transition when the Aeros is the master. Can someone help me out?

Please make sure you have the MIDI out of the Aeros connected to the IN end of the MIDI breakout cable

Aeros midi out > BB midi in

@Joelstanfield

Also, with my pre recorded songs, the Aeros starts immediately while the BB does its count in. how do I need to set this up going forward?

It would be awesome if the BB could just cause the Aeros to transition to the next part automatically in 6x6 mode and my problems would be solved.

1. Aeros is meant to control BB, so now if you want a count in you should do it on the Aeros. We also do not suggest having an intro or count in on the BeatBuddy it should go straight to the main beat once it receives MIDI Start. This is the reality of Aeros being the master, if you wish to have intros on BB you would likely best get the behavior you want by having it as master.
2. Remember the Bb midi out should no longer be connected to the Aeros midi input, it is not possible to have the BeatBuddy control the Aeros if the Aeros is master

@Joelstanfield

So, I need to connect the BB out to the Aeros in? Doesn’t that prevent you from sending an MIDI signal into Aeros to change songs, etc?

The Aeros can send midi song select messages now, this is how you would go about this

This is a different way of using the two pedals everything is reversed

@MBKFHB

This feature is the ability for user to configure the “system” to operate in a manner that insures the Aeros and the BB are always on the same song part using 1 switch tap. By system I mean the integrated combination of the MM, BB and Aeros.

This should work this way already the Aeros sends a CC113 command with a value equal to the part it is transitioning to, this should make the BeatBuddy transition to that part with the Aeros

If this is not the case for you, could you please send support@singularsound.com a video of what you mean so we can investigate?

Thank you

@MBKFHB

I can no longer use the pause on the footswitch to suspend both the BB and Aeros. I understand why this is no longer possible with the Aeros as the master, but it has created a problem. Invoking the stop function on the Aeros works for the Aeros, but this stops the BB, thus switching the BB back to part 1.

Try muting all the tracks in the Aeros

CC:38 value 127

This is the reality of Aeros being master, you cannot also have BB controlling Aeros it’s just how it will work in this setup, consider muting on the Aeros like mute pause on the BB

@MBKFHB

In 6x6 mode with the Aeros configured as the master, I tried sending the 113 #, 113 0 using the MM, but the BB would not switch to the correct song part. When I sent it a 113 1 it would switch to part2.

The Aeros does not need to send a transition command if you are sending a transition command to both units. You likely are doubling the commands.

If you need the behavior from the Aeros which is more useful (EOL part switching) send a transition command only the Aeros responds to (like CC:113 value 101-106) or a normal cc on a midi channel the BB is not listening to and then the Aeros will control the BB itself

@MBKFHB

I know there is a too much information here.

You may have overthought on this, please try my suggestions and see if that fixes your issue.

Thanks!

@Baiyazu

and if the slideout menu could be brought out without clicking the physical foot switch? i could use many of the features silently!

Something to consider, maybe you can make a feature request on it

@MKB

I have only used 5.0 with 6x6 mode, as master midi, and mostly it works OK. However if you let a pattern with multiple tracks continuously run for say 10 repetitions, sometimes the primary button functions stop working. You can press any button once and at most the text for the button will blink, it will not stop playback or start/stop recording. However double taps on the Start/Stop button offers the erase song function. The only way to stop playback is to power cycle the unit, and any loops recorded since the last save are lost.

Could you please send us a video of what you mean?

It would be very helpful if you turn on the Active Logger (settings>diagnostic) before you attempt to make the video showing us this behavior. Please have the SD inserted before activating the logger for this to work

Once you do this please send the video and logs to support@singularsound.com along with any Information you can give us

If you could zip the song from your SD (shows up as a folder) and send that to us that would also be helpful.

Thanks for reporting!

@MKB

The second thing that happens is when entering into the mixer screen during playback, sometimes the master volume slider appears turned all the way off, but the volume remains where it was in the beginning

We have noticed this it may be related to the EXP pedal’s newly available behavior

We are investigating

@MKB

The third thing is sometimes during playback the waveform displays on some or all tracks will flatline but the sound will still play. Reloading the song brings the waveforms back up.

If you can have this happen while you have the active logger and a video going that would be excellent, too

@Gibson

I am having a problem with the volume as well. Suddenly volume slider goes all way down and no audio. I brought the volume slider up but still no audio.
Nothing I could do except restart the looper then the recorded audio comes back.
For some reason, it usually happens only one time during the session.
I mean one time during every session.

If you could follow my above instructions for reporting a reproducible issue using the active logger please do so and send the contents to support@singularsound.com

Thanks

@GUY1

broken caps button and message was anything but rude

Broken or not it is still against the forum rules please try using an online case converter to make your text lowercase, it’s very easy and will keep your posts from breaking any forum rules I took the liberty of doing so for your last posts

Let’s stay civil all, we are all here to have fun, share, and grow with this awesome looper!

Thanks so much for all your feedback !

[dwdavedw]

Still no luck with auto record. Have tried various level settings in setup threshold. With Beat buddy initiating, before starting beat buddy, Aeros displays ARM on both tracks. When Beat buddy starts and
plays an intro, Aeros waits the 4 beats and then starts recording -track 1 begins recording with no input , and track 1 switches display to “Play”, track 2 display switches to “RECORD”. If I skip the beat buddy, and start Aeros, both tracks switch display from “Arm” to “RECORD”

[NYHC]

Aeros loop Studio V 5.0 Beta. The Arm (FR/ENG)

[GUY1]

Nice and very good vid.

[dwdavedw]

ARM works fine without using beat buddy, does Aeros need to be the MIDI master for this to work - i.e running beat buddy but not recording a track until you exceed the threshold?

[MKB]

Hello Brennan, I was able to capture the problem on video after enabling diagnostics. I have sent the video, diagnostic file and song files to support@singularsound.com as you requested. Thanks!

[NYHC]

If I remember.
When I did this video, the Beatbuddy was Master.

[Blowback]

Blockquote

We do not currently have plans to make the font any bigger in the songs list, but we are open to it possibly if there are enough people having issues with it.

Blockquote
Hey Brennan and the Team,
I feel this should be considered one way or the other. I appteciate there are limitations and factors at play but any increase no matter how small it is helps.No everyone has the gift of good vision. It should not be down to the amount of people requesting it. The lack of forethought in this regard is not unusual in fact the norm.
Music is inclusive.
Every little helps as they say.

[NYHC]

@Gibson

I am having a problem with the volume as well. Suddenly volume slider goes all way down and no audio

Hello @BrennanSingularSound Brennan
We mean this issue . i send a email on SS support month ago with the 5 active logs.
I was making a video about the Aeros and this issue happen suddently again
Take a look a 6.40 minutes and let’s play, you will see the Master slider drop to zero suddently

Aeros Loop Studio V 5.0 Beta. Two other way to start a recording (FR/ENG). And the bug that I have.

I can not reproduce this , because it’s happen suddently, I get this issue a lot of time.
No pedal is connected to the Aeros and Midi Maestro.

tx

[dwdavedw]

did you start the beat buddy from the MIDI Master or the beat buddy itself? Is there a setting in the beat buddy that could be triggering the Aeros to begin recording, instead of waiting for signal above threshold?

[NYHC]

You can start a recording with the Beatbuddy at the same time, with the normal settings and BB as Master
With the Aeros as Master and the arm mode:
You can start with the threshold
or
You can start the Beatbuddy before and play when you are ready to start the recording

[MACSHOW]

Any time frame of when an updated Beta will be out? 5.1 or a full working Update is coming?

I was on a gig last night & tried to loop basic 2X2 free form loops on the fly. Record 1st loop & ZERO volume came out of the loop. I was running through just fine with full output but no loop was audible. Green track was there.

I didn’t even try with the beatbuddy because I want to get through a gig as simple as possible until all these bugs are worked out.

[GUY1]

It is a glitch and you have to turn the volume back up
with the scroll foot controller
Other than that lots of nice add features

[roybjensen]

Thanks Brandon! I was able to load wave files into multiple tracks for different parts. Works great! Not very intuitive to figure out how to do it, so thanks for your tips. I’ve been wanting this for quite awhile, so I am stoked that it is working.

[WilliamTell]

OMG!!! I do not have words to express my joy.
I just bought the Aeros Loop studio a few days ago and I really liked it (coming from a disastrous relationship with a 505).
And now the new auto quantize - that is an absolute game changer. I am ecstatic. Now I can actually make music
I use the Aeros to transmit the midi clock and my Boss TR-6S seems happy to follow along.
A humble request would be to be able to quantize for longer than 16 bars - why that limit? Is it arbitrary? If so please increase it! Or did I misunderstand that limit?

[Quad]

There’s no way to finish editing a song hands free (aka Save). You have to press the save button. Now that the Aeros is master I need to change tempo on it with each new song…

Also the help (info) dialogs in the song settings cannot be “closed” by footswitch (handsfree).

Let me know if you prefer these issues to be reported elsewhere.

[Quad]

Is there a way to get the press/hold to start the BB fill of the transition and release to end the BB transition which changes parts or starts record of the next part?

Would be nice if this could be done on the BB as normal via the foot control. but could also be controlled by a midi controller. @NYHC Did you set this up so the BB sent the next part to the Aeros upon the end of the transition (releasing the BB pedal)?

Seems like there’s a way for the BB to send only a few commands to Aeros and not have the Aeros cause a midi loop…

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Would be nice for all the autoquantize related midi settings (e.g. rec commit, Send Stop At Empty Part if the multi-tempo is also enabled) to be set if autoquantize is set. Perhaps a possible setting value is “Auto” which does the right thing in autoquantize.

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Any reason why “Songs” is not an option on the stopped menu? There is “Open Album” which is close, but that won’t allow navigating up to other Albums or internal/external storage handfree (“back” goes back to the stop screen)